In an effort to boost revenue amid a struggling economy, San Luis Obispo City Council members voted April 9 to make changes to downtown parking, including charging for parking on Sundays.
Robert Horch, the San Luis Obispo parking services manager, said city council members voted to chargE for metered parking from 1 to 6 p.m. beginning in July, and raise the hour meter price from $1.25 to $1.50 in the “downtown core areas” in November. The changes are projected to bring in $351,125 per year, with $206,125 from Sunday fees, according to the city.
Horch said the council also approved adding meters that accept credit cards to help supplement the raised parking costs. He said the raised fees help pay for parking costs around the city.
“Parking is not someone’s destination when they come downtown, but a method to access the downtown,” Horch said. “Charging on Sundays helps us afford the costs of maintenance, lighting, elevators and debt service or funding of parking structures and other parking areas.”
Though the city aims to help pay for costs, some San Luis Obispo residents are unhappy about the decision. Horch said some downtown churches are concerned the new costs could deter worshippers. However, he said they shouldn’t worry because many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services.
“We recommended this because of the retail business occurring on Sundays, not because of religious services,” Horch said. “We know this is a big change. We will work with these churches to help find the best parking on Sundays that meets their needs.”
Besides churchgoers, others are also concerned about the new fees.
Mathematics sophomore Noradino Salas said the additional cost on Sunday may complicate his weekend plans.
“(Costs on Sunday) would not be very good,” Salas said. “I would not be very happy. If I wanted to go downtown on the weekend, it would just be another hassle.”
Cindy Campbell, the associate director of the Cal Poly University Police Department, said the decision was necessary because additional fees are essential due to regular maintenance costs and those associated with the new structure, as well as to ration city money for other services that need the funds.
Though Campbell said Cal Poly’s parking fees are not proposed to rise next year, she could not guarantee they would not also eventually increase with rising maintenance costs and debt owed on current campus parking structures.
Cal Poly offers reserved parking for the three types of Poly parkers: general students, residents and staff. By having different sections, each are reserved spaces, making it convenient for residents, Campbell said.
“By the residential areas on campus, you don’t have a choice,” Campbell said. “You’ve got a car, you’ve got to put it where the residential parking is for you. You have to be assured you have a space.”
Though Sunday parking changes may make downtown travel less desirable, Cal Poly and the city both provide services to help.
Campbell said students can ride the bus for free, which she thought students should take more advantage of.
“Maybe students are weary of hearing this message, but the bus is free,” Campbell said. “We’re paying for it out of citation money. You don’t worry about getting a ticket at the meters, you don’t have to worry about paying the meters at all.”
In addition, Horch said the city provides access for bikers and walkers, making the downtown area conducive to those without cars or who do not wish to pay the additional fees. He also said the city always keeps locals in mind when making parking changes.
Horch makes an obvious logical fallacy when he states that “the parking costs could help make the downtown economy more prosperous”. He falsely states that parking costs and a more prosperous downtown economy have a relationship, missing steps. That is why I believe he presents a non sequitor, as well as possibly a post hoc fallacy, as he seems to state a time relationship.
This article is proposing the idea of increases parking meter fees in downtown San Luis Obispo. Horch, the SLO parking manager, uses oversimplification when he states, ” they shouldn’t worry because many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services.” This is oversimplification because even though the claim might be true, this wouldn’t be acceptable to the citizens of SLO because he is comparing two completely different cities. Also the logical fallacy non sequitur is used in this article when Noradino Salas said, “the additional cost on Sunday may complicate his weekend plans.” This is non sequitur because he is attempting to tie two unrelated things together: his weekend plans with the parking meter fees.
This article is proposing the idea of increases parking meter fees in downtown San Luis Obispo. Horch, the SLO parking manager, uses oversimplification when he states, " they shouldn’t worry because many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services." This is oversimplification because even though the claim might be true, this wouldn’t be acceptable to the citizens of SLO because he is comparing two completely different cities. Also the logical fallacy non sequitur is used in this article when Noradino Salas said, "the additional cost on Sunday may complicate his weekend plans." This is non sequitur because he is attempting to tie two unrelated things together: his weekend plans with the parking meter fees.
There are a few logical fallacies in this article. First, Horch says that churches should not worry about the new parking costs on Sundays because other cities have parking fees on Sunday and people still attend church. This is a false analogy because in order to compare the different cities, you would need to know if all the other factors about the church-goers and the residents of each city are the same. It also could be a hasty generalization because he only mentions a few cities–a small sample size–to make a generalization about SLO church-goers.
Horch also commits a non sequitur fallacy when he says that the downtown economy will be more prosperous because of the parking costs. He is missing steps between his argument since the parking costs won’t directly go to making the downtown economy more prosperous.
The article published here proposes the monetary benefits which the city will see by raising the cost of parking meters to $1.50. The parking manager for San Luis Obispo, Robert Horch, uses the logical fallacy of hasty generalization in his argument about how those churches, who are downtown, will not see a decrease in attendance because of the new fees. The fallacy is seen when Horch states, “some downtown churches are concerned the new costs could deter worshippers. However, he said they shouldn’t worry because many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services.” This is a hasty generalization in that he provides no concrete evidence for his conclusion and he also bases this assumption off “many” other cities, which does not present the reader with an appropriate sample size for making this assumption.
The article published here proposes the monetary benefits which the city will see by raising the cost of parking meters to $1.50. The parking manager for San Luis Obispo, Robert Horch, uses the logical fallacy of hasty generalization in his argument about how those churches, who are downtown, will not see a decrease in attendance because of the new fees. The fallacy is seen when Horch states, "some downtown churches are concerned the new costs could deter worshippers. However, he said they shouldn’t worry because many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services." This is a hasty generalization in that he provides no concrete evidence for his conclusion and he also bases this assumption off "many" other cities, which does not present the reader with an appropriate sample size for making this assumption.
This article is presenting the new parking fees that will soon be applied in San Luis Obispo. Not only will the parking fees rise to $1.50 but people will also be charged on Sunday for parking. In this article, there are a few logical fallacies with the evidence that Horch is presenting. The first logical fallacy that becomes very evident is when he states “they shouldn’t worry because many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services.” This is a oversimplification and also a hasty generalization. He just assumes that there is one simple cause when there is many more causes. He compares San Luis Obispo to other towns, which for one are not named, and may have no relationship to SLO. These towns could be completely different cultures and completely different sizes. Hasty generalization is also seen in his comparison with SLO to “other cities” which he does not give a sample size for.
It seems that Horch made a false analogy when he stated “…they shouldn’t worry because many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services.” Here he compares the residents of San Luis Obispo to residents of other, unnamed cities of unspecified locations. This is a false analogy because one cannot compare the citizens of one city with another; perhaps the worshippers of San Luis Obispo are comprised of a different population dynamic than the worshipers of other cities, which would set them apart in their response to the new policy of charging for parking on Sundays.
Robert Horch, the San Luis Obispo parking services manager makes a clear logical fallacy when he states that the churches shouldn’t worry about members not attending service because “many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services.” This is a false analogy because one cannot compare San Luis Obsipo to other (unnamed) cities.
Robert Horch, the San Luis Obispo parking services manager makes a clear logical fallacy when he states that the churches shouldn’t worry about members not attending service because "many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services." This is a false analogy because one cannot compare San Luis Obsipo to other (unnamed) cities.
In Noradino Salas’s quote he stated “the additional cost on Sunday may complicate his weekend plans.” He elaborates on this statement saying “(Costs on Sunday) would not be very good, I would not be very happy. If I wanted to go downtown on the weekend, it would just be another hassle.” This quote from Salas is a non sequitor. Through not explaining why his weekend plans would be affected if parking meter costs went up he leaves two open ends. He never once states that he drives a car on Sundays nor that he spends every weekend downtown. Therefore he leaves the two items unrelated.
In Noradino Salas’s quote he stated “the additional cost on Sunday may complicate his weekend plans.” He elaborates on this statement saying “(Costs on Sunday) would not be very good, I would not be very happy. If I wanted to go downtown on the weekend, it would just be another hassle.” This quote from Salas is a non sequitor. Through not explaining why his weekend plans would be affected if parking meter costs went up he leaves two open ends. He never once states that he drives a car on Sundays nor that he spends every weekend downtown. Therefore he leaves the two items unrelated. He oversimplfies as well because he assumes that if prices go up that would just cause him problems on Sundays. He could always take the bus and he would still be able to get downtown without having to deal with parking costs at all.
Robert Horch makes some valid points in this article about why parking costs should be raised. However, some of his points contain major logical fallacies that do not help his argument. Horch says that churches shouldn’t be concerned with losing their community because of the parking costs because “many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services.” This is a false analogy because he is comparing two dissimilar cities. We do not know that San Luis Obispo and other cities have enough in common that they wouldn’t lose worshippers due to parking costs. Another logical fallacy that Horch makes is when he states that these additional parking costs can “make the downtown economy more prosperous” and “pay for a new potential parking structure.” In these statements, Horch is just taking parking funds into account and not other funds that the city receives. He creates an oversimplification because he is assuming that parking is the only cause for these changes.
My comment is not about the article only but also about the comments. I feel smarter in my writing skills after reading to the comments. It helps me wonder what it takes to write a well supported paper.
Anyone else feel as if this town tries to squeeze every last dime out of you? Every week there is construction on roads and sidewalks that seem to be perfectly fine.
While reading this article I found one obvious logical fallacy. A False analogy is comparing two dissimilar things in order to prove a point. Horch’s response to downtown church’s fears does just that. By stating that they should not worry because “many other cities charge parking on Sundays and those worshippers still attend services” he is comparing us to other cities without telling us why they are similar. It is a false analogy to compare our city to “many other cities” without providing and explanation as to what we have in common with these cities and why that will cause us to have similar results in worship attendance.
@Fausto Holguin
I believe all those posts are from a freshman SCOM or ENGL class. Notice how they are of similar length, have above-internet-average composition, and point out the same logical fallacies. Right now their focus seems to be: non-sequitors and oversimplification.
Is this what SCOM has become? Do we no longer need public speaking skills, and instead learn public internet posting skills?
@the class
Critique me next!
This is obviously not an SCOM Class… 1- because SCOM does not exist anymore, its COMS and 2- because I am a COMS major and I have never done this….
OHHH you are a COMS major, so that means you know exactly what every COMS teacher assigned in every COMS class taking place on campus this quarter?
Horch’s reasoning contains the logical fallacy of oversimplification. He says that implementing parking fees on Sunday will improve funds for the city, but there are many other factors that could achieve that as well.
Ah yes, scom moved the s to the back and is now coms. My mistake. Anyway, it’s some form of argumentative class. I would prefer their critiques be applied broadly across the breadth of topics found here at the Daily. There are so many poorly written, fallacy ridden articles that truly need this sort of attention!
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